I'm not sure that this is exactly whet you mean, bit I _LIKE_ the concept od proactive, pre-emptive SHUNNING, especially from the perspective of "I will shun you NOW so that you can't shun me later!"
Go for it, and may it go well for you.
Nathan Natas
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Newly out, am I shunning them before they shun me?
by schnell ini have indeed made the truth my own, and i am never going back to jehovah's witnesses.
the fact now is that talking about this religion with someone who believes it makes me sort of angry.
it raises my blood pressure.
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Another Subliminal Image? On the JW Website
by The Searcher inthis image appears on the current main web page - as you scroll the "witnessing" photos.. weird "facial" image at the guy's right shoulder.. .
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Nathan Natas
LOL @ Splash!
But seriously, fulltimestudent NAILED it.
Our minds are evolved to recognize patterns. Sometimes our minds fool us.
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1000 Years is Like 1 Day?
by Sorry inanyone else hear about this.
as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.
quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).
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Nathan Natas
Sorry, were you ever a JW? Did you have a "free home Bible study"? Did you ever learn how to use the reference material in THE BACK OF YOUR BIBLE?
I'm stunned that anyone on an XJW site could ask such a question, really!
When I was a pioneer I had a couple of return visits at an apartment that was a little hippie commune (this was before 1970) one day one of the guys tells me that while part of the rotating crowd in the apartment was "discussing the Bible" with me in the front room, the half of the crowd in the back rooms were either getting high or servicing a couple of ladies they had back there.
I was so offended that they didn't offer to share with me, I never went back there!
Were you one of those guys, Sorry?
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My Story
by SamTheGinge inso, i joined just yesterday after coming across this forum looking at beth sarim, and i though that i would share my story with you.
it will no doubt be very similar to a lot of others, but it's a way of getting to know me at least.. i was brought up as witness from the age of 4 years old, my dad picked up the 'truth' from one of his friends in the pub and it seemed to go from there, he would quickly get baptised and progress to becoming a ministerial servant and then an elder.
from a young age i wanted to be like my dad and become a pioneer, a ministerial servant and then an elder... perhaps even becoming a co. the world, spiritually speaking, was my oyster.
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Nathan Natas
Don't feel too bad. We ALL got baptized for the wrong reason, but baptism is the first step to becoming an XJW.
Welcome!
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Pyramid Schemes
by schnell inseveral years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.
they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.
you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.
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Nathan Natas
I have this idea for selling actual pyramids through FaceBook. I think you have what it takes to be a major partner in my business. Let me know if you're interested, OK?
This is going to be BIG, trust me.
PS - I am not a crook.
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What Comes After the Watchtower Collapse?
by schnell ini was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
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Nathan Natas
After the Watchtower collapse, there will be a luncheon buffet and a no-host bar.
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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Nathan Natas
Landy, you probably know better than I do. After all, you weren't there.
I think your number three applies to you. My windows are a bit soiled. Will you do them again, please?
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"Don't you want our kids to have what we had?"
by schnell inmy wife just asked me this.
my answer, in no uncertain terms, is no.
we both grew up in the dub religion.
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WHAT "did you have"? A basket full of lies and false hopes and a completely wrong understanding of the nature of reality and how the world works with irrational superstitions.
In other words, you had a mental disease, with spiritual maggots eating your brain.
You want your kids to have THAT?
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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Fascinating topic!
Look at how many adults are hung up on not admitting that their parents had "standard issue" human failings.
Speaking for myself, one look at my 'rents (I've been told that's the "hip" term for "parents," and it saves TWO LETTERS) and an examination of their life events lead incontrovertibly to the conclusion that YES, my parents were idiots!
Want more proof? Read my posts.
My mother was the idiot who bought the JW sales pitch.
Through the years I've analyzed her in absentia (she won't talk to me, and I gladly reciprocate). Her dad died when she was just entering her teens. She was the apple of her daddy's eye, and his death left her in the custody of her crazy inbred hillbilly mother and her older unkind brothers. She was sexually abused within a year of her dad's death, and soon fled north to join her older married sister who did provide her with some sanctuary. But sanctuary doesn't prevent a person from making a whole bunch of brand-new bad decisions, and she did. Instead of seeking knowledge and wisdom, she decided she "knew it all" and sought good times and parties and such.
That led to an unwanted pregnancy (Hi there!) and a lousy marriage, yoked to an undisciplined man who felt trapped and directionless. His favorite excuse was that everybody always lied to him.
When his new bride told him about how she was the victim of sexual abuse in her early teens, he slapped her and called her a whore. Mr. Nice Guy.
One day a couple of liars came to her door and told her that her daddy was going to be resurrected. Soon. VERY SOON. Quick! Study the Bible with us!
She couldn't read, so those nice Bible grifters taught her how to read and how to tell her husband that his family's church was Satanic.
He listened to their crap for a while. Everybody always lied to him. Then he tried to murder his bride. Failed at that. Split. Everybody always lied to him.
He's dead now. When he died, I took pleasure in reminding her that according to the Faithful & Discreet Slave, soon he would be resurrected too. THAT almost drove her crazy*, and she had to have one of the lying grifters promise her that he would not be resurrected.
I'm just glad this idiocy isn't hereditary.
*Seriously. The thought of this abomination (my father) benefitting from her Lord's ransom sacrifice CONSUMED her for several weeks; it was nearly the only thing she could talk about with any Theocrat. It was like watching a cat chase it's own tail, on a spiritual level. PRICELESS!
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Starting a 'Bible Study' - The Basics
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw.
i was brought up in a fairly fundie sect (pb) and have been for many years an interested atheist.
i am an admirer of the work of bart ehrman (and recommend his blog).. from time to time, jws call at my door and invite me to partake in a 'bible study'.
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Nathan Natas
I _like_ the idea of giving the presumptive "Bible teacher" a little quiz first, it's diabolical, and these "experiences" are very entertaining.